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Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-28T21:45:25
The honeymoon isn't until 2 weeks when they go to Bora Bora.  He said in his tweet that this Jamiaca trip was for some alone time. I'm not the photographer but I bet she's loving it.  Jamaica is her kind of place to go.   Reply-to:Wonder how the honeymoon is going? Photographer, any news?

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-28T21:27:57
Wonder how the honeymoon is going? Photographer, any news?
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-28T11:35:55
I believe you've said all that can be said.  Bravo.  Reply-to:

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-28T09:21:33
Reply-to:1) The "photographer" was simply a guest at the wedding, as you supposedly were - "Photographer" is the moniker we've given this person to protect their anonymity; it has nothing to do with their profession. 2) Since you refuse to give your opinion regarding Shockey's marriage, it must mean you dislike D. as much as everyone else; if you had anything positive to say, you would have said it. 3) how bizarre that your friend marries someone, and you know nothing about their relationship; most people bring their S.O. around their friends ALOT to make sure everyone gets along, before taking the plunge. 4) to previous posters, I agree, D. is in control, but only because Shockey allows it. Yes, she will likely rip him off, but only to the degree he allows it to happen. If the $ex is so good he's willing to relinquish control of his life to her, that's a foolish decision, but it's his decision to make. wow, Im curious who the photographer is...... I was at the wedding and just googled it to ee If i could see myself and stumbled across this webpage and it sure makes me happy Im not famous so my relationships arent disected like this. I realize its the nature of the beast so Im not insulting any of you all cause it is what it is..... but I was at Jeremys place at the Waverly preceeding the wedding and a photographer came over to snap some shots and Im wondering if that is you.... if so weve met. Ill keep all my comments regarding their marriage to myself cause frankly hes my friend and I dont know any more than the rest of you..... Hes a big boy and I support his major life decisions just like I do for the rest of my friends..... he just happens to be a talented athlete and in the spotlight so people voice their opinions online

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-28T09:19:04
If anyone doubts that D's attitude has changed in the past months just read her tweets.  When she was trying to land him she was always gushing about him on twitter and posting pics of their trips.  Now, they are on a "get away" to Jamaica and she still hasn't changed her avatar from that horrid magenta lipstick pic and there is nothing about the trip or how happy she is to be with "mi amor" Jeremy Shockey.  He's the one doing all of that now.  With her it's like "eh big deal."  Poor J.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-27T23:30:54
wow, I'm curious who the photographer is...... I was at the wedding and just googled it to ee If i could see myself and stumbled across this webpage and it sure makes me happy I'm not famous so my relationships aren't disected like this. I realize it's the nature of the beast so I'm not insulting any of you all cause it is what it is..... but I was at Jeremy's place at the Waverly preceeding the wedding and a photographer came over to snap some shots and I'm wondering if that is you.... if so we've met. I'll keep all my comments regarding their marriage to myself cause frankly he's my friend and I don't know any more than the rest of you..... He's a big boy and I support his major life decisions just like I do for the rest of my friends..... he just happens to be a talented athlete and in the spotlight so people voice their opinions online
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-27T13:57:06

I would like to add to the blogger's argument that she's in control.  The photographer has already stated that she answers his text messages and she has used his twitter account to send out tweets supposedly from Shockey.   The rushed wedding was  her doing.  She didn't want to take the chance on a break up before she landed her prize.  As far as her career, she was supposed to be taking design classes at the city college. But, she was always dropping out to go to NC for 4 weeks or to fly off to Vegas, or the Virgin Islands, etc. Her real "career" goal was to land a rich sports player and she did everything she could to achieve that. The photographer mentioned her reputation as a "sports figure call girl." That could be true or not but the truth is that she's been hanging out in clubs, illeglly I might add, since she was in high school. She is not inexperienced and she's not some dumb Latina either. This is a cold, calculating woman with a plan. Don't under estimate her.

Reply-to:I totally agree and I would take it a step further and say that Shockey married a 21 year old recent high school graduate as a control mechanism.  Shes financial dependent on him and has no career establishment.  If she gets pregnant soon, hell have even more control over her life.  In other words, I dont think she has a sense of self like an educated woman would.  She thinks she has snagged a rich NFL football player but I dont think shes aware of his motives. 

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-27T13:22:40

Actually she is the one in control, not him.  No, she is not drugging him nor is she a witch.  But, just look at their history, she's the one who "wears the pants in the family".  That has been confirmed by a friend of his, we call the photographer.  Yes, he did choose her, but she has manipulated and controlled him since day one.  She's the one who gave him the ultimatum, "marry me or else," and he complied.  She's the one who has had him groveling for her approval since that last big fight they had.  Go back and look at her and his tweets.   She's the one who called the shots. She's the one who rushed to NC when rumors about him and Emily Maynard surfaced. Don't be fooled by her age, she's known exactly what she's doing and J might think he's in control but she's been in control all along. 

Reply-to:I totally agree and I would take it a step further and say that Shockey married a 21 year old recent high school graduate as a control mechanism.  Shes financial dependent on him and has no career establishment.  If she gets pregnant soon, hell have even more control over her life.  In other words, I dont think she has a sense of self like an educated woman would.  She thinks she has snagged a rich NFL football player but I dont think shes aware of his motives. 

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-27T12:51:59

I totally agree and I would take it a step further and say that Shockey married a 21 year old recent high school graduate as a control mechanism.  She's financial dependent on him and has no career establishment.  If she gets pregnant soon, he'll have even more control over her life.  In other words, I don't think she has a sense of self like an educated woman would.  She thinks she has snagged a rich NFL football player but I don't think she's aware of his motives. 

Reply-to:You know, I like Shockey; he seems like an interesting guy, and (until recently) was very passionate about football, which made him exciting to watch. But everyone is blaming D. for this travesty of a marriage. The fact is, HE chose HER. Posters have may such ridiculous comments - spell casting witch, and that she drugged him -how silly. Its disrespectful to Shockey not to make him take responsibility for the person he chose to marry. Shockey has always been focused on how a woman looks; its THE most important factor for him, and, like many people, he associates beauty with goodness, truth, etc... thats why our stereotypes of things like demons are ugly, because theyre evil, so they have to be ugly, right? Hes been a sucker for hot, attention seeking Latinas who dress provocatively since his days with Vida Guerra. Someone wondered previously what his preconceived notion of a wife was; D. is it. A hot, party loving Latina that can show him a good time. Because he thinks shes beautiful, and therefore good, kind, etc... because of her beauty, being a good mother and all the rest will just fall into place without giving it any thought now.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-27T11:49:49
You know, I like Shockey; he seems like an interesting guy, and (until recently) was very passionate about football, which made him exciting to watch. But everyone is blaming D. for this travesty of a marriage. The fact is, HE chose HER. Posters have may such ridiculous comments - 'spell casting witch", and that she drugged him -how silly. It's disrespectful to Shockey not to make him take responsibility for the person he chose to marry. Shockey has always been focused on how a woman looks; it's THE most important factor for him, and, like many people, he associates beauty with goodness, truth, etc... that's why our stereotypes of things like demons are ugly, because they're evil, so they have to be ugly, right? He's been a sucker for hot, attention seeking Latinas who dress provocatively since his days with Vida Guerra. Someone wondered previously what his preconceived notion of a wife was; D. is it. A hot, party loving Latina that can show him a good time. Because he thinks she's beautiful, and therefore good, kind, etc... because of her beauty, being a good mother and all the rest will just fall into place without giving it any thought now.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-26T23:56:35

Failure is a forgone conclusion.  I think what most of us who follow this blog were concerned about, as fans of his,  was how much she was going to hurt him in the process.  How much money will she milk from him or drain from his accounts?  How emotionally scarred will he be when it's all said and done?  That's the unknown about this whole affair.

Reply-to:I would think his childhood means he doesnt have a real frame of reference for a healthy husband/wife relationship. IMO, his primary reason for choosing D. is physical attraction and physical attractiveness. He tries to couch it in other terminology - most amazing person, things like that, but shes his type to a T, and she looks good on his arm. Unless the days and weeks to come bring more depth and a stronger foundation to their marriage, I think its bound to fail.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-26T22:24:07
I would think his childhood means he doesn't have a real frame of reference for a healthy husband/wife relationship. IMO, his primary reason for choosing D. is physical attraction and physical attractiveness. He tries to couch it in other terminology - "most amazing person", things like that, but she's his type to a T, and she looks good on his arm. Unless the days and weeks to come bring more depth and a stronger foundation to their marriage, I think it's bound to fail.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-26T21:47:42

I wonder what J's preconceived idea of a wife is (was.)  Everyone has an idea of what they want their spouse to be.  Does (did) he want someone who would take care of him and eventually their children.  You know, someone who would have a hot meal on the table in the evening.  Make him chicken soup when he wasn't feeling well.  Or, did he always just want a companion?   I would think that he would want to provide as normal a family life as possible for himself and his children.  I say that based on what I know about his childhood.  I'm just curious how much has he had to compromise his dreams. 

Reply-to:I do not know if she cooks, I know he has always had a.chef that prepares his meals. Otherwise they eat out. Its too new for us to know any of that. There is a cl eaning service, shes not mopping floors and doing windows. She is a companion, not a housewife. -photographer

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-26T16:54:23
Actually, it's probably true, to  a certain extent. Being Colombian, D. is most likely a combination of Spanish - meaning Caucasian, from Spain - indigenous Colombian native (Indian),  and African.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-26T09:58:54
I just read the responses on Instagram to the pic he posted of them cutting the cake.  One guy said she was "black" but sexy.  I just thought it was funny. 
Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-26T08:06:58
I do not know if she cooks, I know he has always had a.chef that prepares his meals. Otherwise they eat out. It's too new for us to know any of that. There is a cl eaning service, she's not mopping floors and doing windows. She is a companion, not a housewife. -photographer
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-26T06:55:09
That's a great question! I'm not the Photographer, but I know that the Waverly - the building in SoBe where Shockey lives, has a housekeeping service; I've stayed there a few times in their rental units when I've had extended business in Miami. I don't think either one of them is doing any cleaning.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-26T00:41:39
Maybe our photographer can answer this.  I'm really curious.  Does D cook and clean or at least cook?  Or do they go out to eat most of their meals? 
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-25T20:15:04

I wouldn't be surprised.  It would be to her advantage to keep anyone away who could influence J in a way other than what she wants.  She's a controler.  All signs point to that.   She is capable of doing anything to ensure that her scheme comes to fruition. 

Reply-to:Well it seems honeymoon plans were answered. Of course the plan is to travel its what he does in the off season. I do agree this could hurt his chances of pick up, but Drew is still in Miami and working for him. You can be not so sure about the uniform tweet, but I am sure. I am happy that Dani put out their that friendships dont matter about time, etc, just who makes it to his future. Im wondering if theres a list on who she is allowing to be part of his life.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-25T19:31:26
Well it seems "honeymoon" plans were answered. Of course the plan is to travel its what he does in the off season. I do agree this could hurt his chances of pick up, but Drew is still in Miami and working for him. You can be not so sure about the uniform tweet, but I am sure. I am happy that Dani put out their that friendships don't matter about time, etc, just who makes it to his future. I'm wondering if there's a list on who she is allowing to be part of his life.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-25T13:26:51

He just tweeted that they are heading for Jamaica for "some alone time".  Then in 2 weeks they are off for Bora Bora.  I have a feeling this is going to be his life, traveling from one place to another because she likes to travel.  It also seems he's not giving himself any chance to be picked up by an NFL team.  As the photographer says, "he's whipped."  I know the photographer thinks that the tweet about her uniform being the best wasn't his, but now, I'm not so sure. I'm sure twitter will be quiet for a few weeks.  Then, after the honeymoon is over, the serious stuff starts.  That will be interesting.

 

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-25T12:45:43
I agree.  After the little two step they were doing and then hugging afterwards, it looks as if she is annoyed with Jeremy and he has a bit of concern on his face like "what's wrong?"  I'd like to give her the benefit of the doubt and think that it was really early in the morning and maybe she was tired but she look like she had a bit of an attitude in some parts of the video. 

Reply-to:
I watched the video again.  The problem is her.  Jeremy is feeling it, you can tell.  He might not be able to salsa but he was game.  She's very awkward around him.  There is no chemistry between them.  There is no underlying affection there from her.  She actually is acting with him like she would a stranger.  It's like she's going through the motions but that's it.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-25T12:01:47
I watched the video again.  The problem is her.  Jeremy is feeling it, you can tell.  He might not be able to salsa but he was game.  She's very awkward around him.  There is no chemistry between them.  There is no underlying affection there from her.  She actually is acting with him like she would a stranger.  It's like she's going through the motions but that's it.   Reply-to:Agreed, that video looks horrible and I swear its like D is laughing in his face!!  He looks so awkward and uncomfortable in that vid.  It seems like everyone is appalled by this rush wedding except for Shockey.  Hey photographer, where is the honeymoon and how long will it be??  I think hes going to have a wake up call when its over.

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-25T11:19:22
Agreed, that video looks horrible and I swear it's like D is laughing in his face!!  He looks so awkward and uncomfortable in that vid.  It seems like everyone is appalled by this "rush" wedding except for Shockey.  Hey photographer, where is the honeymoon and how long will it be??  I think he's going to have a wake up call when it's over.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T21:45:36

Are you sure it was from tonight's game?  The Heat played away tonight?  If he was in red then that was before the wedding.

Reply-to:Someone posted a photo of Shockey at the Heat game tonight. He has already stopped wearing his wedding ring.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T21:31:23

You're missing some important info about her.  It's been said and by a very reliable source that she answers his texts and does his tweeting for him.   That is a manipulator not just a young girl.   They get back together after splitting 3 months earlier and all of a sudden they're engaged. Yes she does show up when he needs someone. But, she is a user and a manipulator and her actions support that.  Yes, she is young, but she knows exactly what she's doing and most of us feel her goal is get her hands on his money.

Reply-to:WOW! To the person who posted the youtube wedding video..thank you. With that being said,  that is the most awkward newlywed couple Ive ever seen. I can completely understand nerves and not liking to be the center of attention HOWEVER on your wedding day...the day you become ONE with your SOULMATE those nerves unvoluntarily become secondary. There is nothing there between those two. I have to be honest, up until the actual wedding day, I truly believed SHE was hired. SHE only appeared at his down moments...i.e. 1.When the Saints let him go/drafted by last place team.2. Once he actually went to the Panthers he didnt mention her UNTIL they lost 4 or 5 in a row and then she stayed for her month long Halloween trip. (notice she wasnt there Thanksgiving and Christmas and he played in Tampa on her Bday and she was out and about in MIA w her gfs and didnt make a drive to be with mi amor)3. When Amani Toomer blasted him for being a bad teammate and a WORSE person....Which was immediatly followed by Sapp calling J out as the snitch. You can say they broke up after each of the above but I truly believed she eased his troubled times (as hired help) and as each passed....so did she.It appears J always goes to/hires HER (however you perceive it) at what he feels are his low moments. He feels the need for other peoples appraisal which is ashame being that he alone has accomplished such a great deal. As for HER, I just think she is young. Say what you want about $ and her wanting such BUT at 20 yrs young, what did YOU want? What was your perception of LOVE and life? I, myself ,had no clue. Dont be so judgemental on HER... just try to disect the situation as a whole. I myself truly believe that if J was signed back by the NYG or a team to his liking with similar calibar, he most definetly wouldnt be married right now and football wouldnt be secondary. He filled a void with something else. But the brutal honesty is....the wedding is over. Thats that.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-24T21:30:34
I'm sure I'm not her favorite person either. And I am a female. It's true that they wouldn't tell me, I call a spade a spade.... I was impressed by her retweet today... If only she could come up with something meaningful on her own. She's gonna be pretty a little while I'll be smart forever.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T21:23:56

Can you tell us what site the picture is posted on?  Thanks.

Reply-to:Someone posted a photo of Shockey at the Heat game tonight. He has already stopped wearing his wedding ring.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T21:20:41

WOW! To the person who posted the youtube wedding video..thank you. With that being said,  that is the most awkward newlywed couple I've ever seen. I can completely understand nerves and not liking to be the center of attention HOWEVER on your wedding day...the day you become ONE with your SOULMATE those nerves unvoluntarily become secondary. There is nothing there between those two. I have to be honest, up until the actual wedding day, I truly believed SHE was hired. SHE only appeared at his down moments...i.e.

1.When the Saints let him go/drafted by last place team.

2. Once he actually went to the Panthers he didnt mention her UNTIL they lost 4 or 5 in a row and then she "stayed" for her month long Halloween trip. (notice she wasnt there Thanksgiving and Christmas and he played in Tampa on her Bday and she was out and about in MIA w her gf's and didnt make a drive to be with "mi amor")

3. When Amani Toomer blasted him for being a bad teammate and a WORSE person....Which was immediatly followed by Sapp calling J out as the snitch.

You can say they "broke up" after each of the above but I truly believed she eased his troubled times (as hired help) and as each passed....so did she.

It appears J always goes to/hires HER (however you perceive it) at what he feels are his low moments. He feels the need for other peoples appraisal which is ashame being that he alone has accomplished such a great deal. As for HER, I just think she is young. Say what you want about $ and her wanting such BUT at 20 yrs young, what did YOU want? What was your perception of LOVE and life? I, myself ,had no clue. Don't be so judgemental on HER... just try to disect the situation as a whole. I myself truly believe that if J was signed back by the NYG or a team to his liking with similar calibar, he most definetly wouldn't be married right now and football wouldn't be secondary. He filled a void with something else. But the brutal honesty is....the wedding is over. That's that.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-24T21:18:56
Someone posted a photo of Shockey at the Heat game tonight. He has already stopped wearing his wedding ring.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T18:26:22

Interesting that none of D.'s friends apparently showed up to the wedding. Maybe she does have friends that do more than get drunk with her - maybe they told her this marriage was a mistake, and she wrote them off. Maybe that's what all the recriminations and photos were about last week, and the retweet today.

Again, NO MENTION of "Mi amor"

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-24T17:29:53
Reply-to: I'm just relieved to know he has friends that stood up for what's right and boycotted this wedding. I was wondering if everyone in his life was a "yes" man. He needs people that care enough to tell him the truth, even if it's painful. I just read Ds retweet from Milk.  I wonder if that is meant for a friend of hers or is she trying to tell J about who he should and shouldnt have as friends?

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T17:17:17
Reply-to:"The last person they would tell" that's an interesting thing to say, Photographer; it that because as much as you dislike D., she doesn't care for you either (which means you have lots of friends here) am I right? I dont have an answer to the drinking question... it didnt cross my mind about a baby until someone mentioned it here. I would love to know as much as you all would, if not more. But like I said I would be the last person they would tell if that is the case. It would break my heart. I can handle the relationship and the marriage, and him believing this is the right thing and her following suite. But if she trapped him, and manipulated him, that would make for a long and definite term of 18 years.

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-24T16:31:58
Photographer, are you a male or female? 
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T16:18:03
I just read D's retweet from Milk.  I wonder if that is meant for a "friend" of hers or is she trying to tell J about who he should and shouldn't have as friends?
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T15:47:23

A child would complicate things, at least for J.    Many of us don't think she was pregnant, at least at the time of the proposal because she was doing a lot of drinking.  A.G. tweeted her about a night of tequila consumption.  Now, it would aid her cause to get pregnant fast but who knows what she is thinking?   It just wasn't a good time for J to make such an important decision. He was at a low because of the free agency deal and then the snitch business just made things worse.  I would gather to say he was a little depressed?   I would tell anyone not to make life changing decisions when they are in a mental state like that.  I think she saw his weakness and capitalized on it.  I really hope for his sake the decision turns out good for him in the long run but I do have my doubts about it. 

Reply-to:I dont know many details of the pre nup. I feel that if he married her because they really believe this is true love, lasting forever, cant live without each other, want to be by your side for eternity. I can respect that. IF she is pregnant and used that as leverage to make things go this way, then I have no respect for that. 18 years would be the minimum time he would have to stay with someone who used a pregnancy, and a child to lock him down, because of course he would do the right thing for the child. If this fairy tale they are living ends up with a not so happy ending, at least they can part ways, and be done. With a child involved it will not be a part ways situation.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-24T12:07:31
I don't know many details of the pre nup. I feel that if he married her because "they" really believe this is true love, lasting forever, can't live without each other, want to be by your side for eternity. I can respect that. IF she is pregnant and used that as leverage to make things go this way, then I have no respect for that. 18 years would be the minimum time he would have to stay with someone who used a pregnancy, and a child to "lock" him down, because of course he would do the right thing for the child. If this fairy tale they are living ends up with a not so happy ending, at least they can part ways, and be done. With a child involved it will not be a part ways situation.
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-24T10:53:58

Was there a stipulation in the prenup about how long they had to stay married?  Is that why you mentioned 18 years?  Or were you thinking that they would stay together until the child was out of high school?  Either way, you're right, 18 years is a long time to stay in a relationship that is loveless.  God bless him.

Reply-to:I dont have an answer to the drinking question... it didnt cross my mind about a baby until someone mentioned it here. I would love to know as much as you all would, if not more. But like I said I would be the last person they would tell if that is the case. It would break my heart. I can handle the relationship and the marriage, and him believing this is the right thing and her following suite. But if she trapped him, and manipulated him, that would make for a long and definite term of 18 years.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-24T09:22:51
I don't have an answer to the drinking question... it didn't cross my mind about a baby until someone mentioned it here. I would love to know as much as you all would, if not more. But like I said I would be the last person they would tell if that is the case. It would break my heart. I can handle the relationship and the marriage, and him believing this is the right thing and her following suite. But if she trapped him, and manipulated him, that would make for a long and definite term of 18 years.
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-24T08:38:03

Thank you so much for your candor.  Do you think she's not drinking because of a baby or that she's trying to keep her wits about her?  I wouldn't be surprised that she would be doing his tweeting for him.  Because the recent tweets make it seem like he's given up on football.  And, you say he's ready to play?  Apparently she has some fears if he plays for a team.  Maybe she thinks he won't be so dependent on her?  She needs to be in control, it's her nature.  It may sound silly but it's a fact that people who have small dogs like to manage.  And we all know she manages J.  Have a good day.

Reply-to:-Ok, he is not being drugged or tranquilized with a drug. She has the power between her thighs, and above her eyes. She is not my favorite person in the world, but she is not drugging him. He really is just a giver, he has a pattern of behavior with friends, acquaintances, and girls that this fits into. -I dont think the wedding date had anything to do with football. -Yes Carolina is still on the table, but he wants Miami. Only time will tell. I again dont think he sent the tweet saying her uniform is the best uniform come on now, very uncharacteristic.-His friends will be there when and if this turns for the worse. I know that FOR SURE. I will let you know that some of his friends did not show up in support of his wedding, and opted out of being groomsmen. Also if you notice only her family members were in hers. -I AM SO HAPPY THAT VIDEO WAS POSTED! I didnt think to take any, and if I had to bet on it her family is the one either selling it or supplying it. Yes that is her mother in the WHITE sparkly gown... It is an awkward scene to watch, he doesnt know how to salsa dance. I did notice again though... no drink for Dani...-RANDOM FACT: TK and 5 star island was also on an episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta.-Photographer-

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-24T08:08:46
-Ok, he is not being drugged or tranquilized with a drug. She has the power between her thighs, and above her eyes. She is not my favorite person in the world, but she is not drugging him. He really is just a giver, he has a pattern of behavior with friends, acquaintances, and girls that this fits into.
-I don't think the wedding date had anything to do with football.
-Yes Carolina is still on the table, but he wants Miami. Only time will tell. I again don't think he sent the tweet saying her "uniform is the best uniform" come on now, very uncharacteristic.
-His friends will be there when and if this turns for the worse. I know that FOR SURE. I will let you know that some of his friends did not show up in support of his wedding, and opted out of being groomsmen. Also if you notice only her family members were in hers.
-I AM SO HAPPY THAT VIDEO WAS POSTED! I didn't think to take any, and if I had to bet on it her family is the one either selling it or supplying it. Yes that is her mother in the WHITE sparkly gown... It is an awkward scene to watch, he doesn't know how to salsa dance. I did notice again though... no drink for Dani...
-RANDOM FACT: "TK" and 5 star island was also on an episode of Real Housewives of Atlanta.

-"Photographer"

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Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-24T07:02:34
They've been together 24 hours a day since the wedding.   I think they are starting to get on each other's nerves and J keeps tweeting that mush to placate her.   I wonder when she's going to play her hand?   I hope J's friends will be there to help pick up the pieces she'll leave behind.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-24T07:02:02
That isn't the first time a poster on here has made an outrageous claim, and when pressed for details, is never heard from again. If you're going to make a statement like that, you have to be prepared to stick your neck out and reveal more, lots more.
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-24T06:55:15
I have a hunch that the poster who claimed she was "using something to keep him in that tranquilized state," was either D or one of her friends.   I believe they were trying to distract us or just being stupid. 
Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T23:31:11

Exactly, they have no chemistry.  It doesn't even look like they have strong feelings for each other.  Another reason why this marriage is doomed.  Of course she'll have what she wants by the end of this so it won't make any difference to her. 

Reply-to:Its frustrating when posters make an inflammatory remark like that, but dont back it up with real details - I guess some people just like attention. Glad our wedding photographer turned out to be the real deal!  I know D.s got game, but apart from keeping him drunk, I cant buy that shes slipping him anything else.  If the Panthers (or any other team) do sign him at the last minute, hell get drug tested - even shes smart enough to know that. Dont know how accurate my assessment is, but they have no chemistry IMO, from what I can see in that video. They look like 2 kids at a middle school dance who were forced to dance together, and would rather be anywhere else.  Awkward!

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T23:15:11
About 30 minutes ago, J posted a pic of them cutting the wedding cake.  Of course he had a lovesick caption, "married and happy."  He's trying way too hard to convince himself that he made the right decision and of course he's still groveling to her. 
Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T23:13:45
It's frustrating when posters make an inflammatory remark like that, but don't back it up with real details - I guess some people just like attention. Glad our wedding photographer turned out to be the real deal!  I know D.'s got game, but apart from keeping him drunk, I can't buy that she's slipping him anything else.  If the Panthers (or any other team) do sign him at the last minute, he'll get drug tested - even she's smart enough to know that. Don't know how accurate my assessment is, but they have no chemistry IMO, from what I can see in that video. They look like 2 kids at a middle school dance who were forced to dance together, and would rather be anywhere else.  Awkward!
Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T23:04:04

You're welcome.   I was hoping to see another post from the person who insinuated that she was drugging him.  I'm having a lot of problems accepting that.  I would like something more to go on than just some unknown person's inuendo.   The blogger implied she'd done that kind of thing before.   She's only 21, how many serious relationships can she have had?     The only thing I could accept is that she tries to keep him drunk because he's probably easier to control in that condition.   But, if he's going to have a chance to make an NFL team, he's going to have to cut out the drinking and get into shape so even that idea is flawed.  About the video, I noticed too that she wasn't very comfortable with him. It could be because she doesn't love him anymore, like she implied in that retweet in April.  It's going to be interesting, and I have to admit entertaining, to watch these 2 for the next several months.   I'm sure there are more surprises in store for them as well as us. 

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Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T22:18:40
LMAO!  Thanks for finding the video.  Two things I noticed.  Jeremy was getting his drink on like he was at a bar and I was not feeling the love between he and D.  She did not look like a blushing bride but who knows what time during the evening this dance was taped.  I believe that was Esperanza all up in her new son-in-law personal space. 

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There is a 4 minute video of the reception on you tube.  Its all in Spanish.  Honestly she has no rhythm and she cant dance a step.Check out the link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc74EXpo9FQ&feature=relmfu

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T21:51:20

 Never saw these 2 in action before, only in photos...they look very awkward together, and I'm not talking about the dancing. Looks like she's dancing with her father.  Shockey does a little Irish jig for a second. Oh, what if he had married a nice, respectable Irish WOMAN! Everything is awash in Latin culture.. isn't the Shockey family represented at all.. nothing Irish, nothing down-home Oklahoma? Even the people I can pick out of the video are her family. He's getting swallowed up.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T21:17:37

There is a 4 minute video of the reception on you tube.  It's all in Spanish.  Honestly she has no rhythm and she can't dance a step.Check out the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc74EXpo9FQ&feature=relmfu

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T21:14:05
So, where is the poster who made the cryptic insinuating the D. is drugging Shockey? You can't throw that out here, and not provide the meat of the the story. What do you know?
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T20:05:48

A little snippet of an article about D. Check out the link below.

http://www.rightentertainment.com/?p=3581

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:54:15
She really has J groveling.  He's tweeting love messages left and right.  The last time she actually sent him a tweet was April 26.  It was about the Heat game.  My how the mighty have fallen.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:49:15
I'm glad you agree with me.  I think this little girl is capable of ANYTHING.  And you are right about the hurried marriage.  She couldn't risk the fact that he could get picked up by a team.  It was either get married before minicamps or she would have to wait until after the season was over in 2013 to get married.  She didn't wan't to risk another major break up so she settled for the quicky wedding. It may not have been everything she wanted but she got her prize, the marriage.  Reply-to:Most prenuptial agreements DO NOT have a cheating clause. I am an attorney. The most common way that the agreements are voided is when one party misleads or defrauds the other party. I agree with the person who thinks that D plans to suck out money during the marriage so she would be set if everything goes to hell in a hand basket. I dont think Shockey is done in the NFL. Now that Dallas Clark is off the market, Shockey is the highest rated tight end available. I understand that Carolina will free up some cap space on June 1. The quick wedding date may have been driven by the thought that he will likely have to participate in OTAs shortly.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:38:15
Reply-to:That may be true in your experience,  with your clients, but every couple I know that have any financial wherewithal have such a clause in their prenup. Most prenuptial agreements DO NOT have a cheating clause. I am an attorney. The most common way that the agreements are voided is when one party misleads or defrauds the other party. I agree with the person who thinks that D plans to suck out money during the marriage so she would be set if everything goes to hell in a hand basket. I dont think Shockey is done in the NFL. Now that Dallas Clark is off the market, Shockey is the highest rated tight end available. I understand that Carolina will free up some cap space on June 1. The quick wedding date may have been driven by the thought that he will likely have to participate in OTAs shortly.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:27:58
Most prenuptial agreements DO NOT have a cheating clause. I am an attorney. The most common way that the agreements are voided is when one party misleads or defrauds the other party. I agree with the person who thinks that D plans to suck out money during the marriage so she would be set if everything goes to hell in a hand basket. I don't think Shockey is done in the NFL. Now that Dallas Clark is off the market, Shockey is the highest rated tight end available. I understand that Carolina will free up some cap space on June 1. The quick wedding date may have been driven by the thought that he will likely have to participate in OTA's shortly.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:11:47

OK you're going to have to be more forthcoming than that.   Come on give.  You can't post something like that and not say anything else. 

Reply-to:She is using something to get him in this tranquilized state. Hes not the only one she has done this kind of thing to. Seek the answers and you shall find...............

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:10:17
Reply-to:Okay, you can't leave us hanging with that kind of remark! What do you know, or at least point us in the right direction.  She is using something to get him in this tranquilized state. Hes not the only one she has done this kind of thing to. Seek the answers and you shall find...............

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T19:04:30
She is using something to get him in this "tranquilized" state. He's not the only one she has done this kind of thing to. Seek the answers and you shall find...............
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T17:53:10
Yes, we all believed she was a golddigger, but now, it seems she's even worse than we thought. What I find really disconcerting is how Shockey seems to have just let her take over. Can you imagine how desperate he must be to have something meaningful in his life that he would settle for this?
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T17:02:56
The more we learn from our wedding photographer, the more I know just how right we were about her.  In fact, I believe she is even worse than most of us thought.   I can't wrap my mind around the reality of what J is and the image of what we all thought he was.  I would never have thought that Shockey would let a young girl run his life and hen peck him but he has.  She reads and answers HIS texts!  And, what's galling is that he lets her.   He lost his balls if he ever had any.  I just know she will destroy him and she'll laugh at him while she does. 
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T10:19:54

That is very possible and that could be her plan.  If I were him I wouldn't have agreed to have a clause like that in the prenup, knowing my tendencies.  But, if he is as whipped at our insider thinks, he probably agreed to it and falling right into her greedy little hands in the process.  I wouldn't put it past her to have him followed or spied on.   Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall in their "love nest" for just one day?

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Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:56:52
Reply-to:You made me think of something; according to our photographer, Shockey has cheated in the past, and may feel the need to do it in the future. What if this is what D. is counting on? Most prenups have a "cheating clause" - if one party commits adultery and it can be proved, the conditions of the prenup are considered void, and the wronged party can go after everything.  IMO I think her twitter page hasnt changed because she doesnt need it to be changed any longer.   She has gotten what she wants and she has J right where she wants him.  As our insider says, hes whipped.  The prenup was not a big deal because she is planning on using her new position to get as much for herself as she possibly can.  (IMO).  Shes a schemer and shes quite capable of this kind of machiavellian plot.  A prenup is only for after the marriage ends.  If she bleeds his accounts and savings dry while theyre married and puts money in her name, the prenup is not necessary because she would already have taken his money.  If shes answering his texts for him what else is she doing?  Is she handling his money?  Has she gotten her name on his accounts yet? 

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:40:54

IMO I think her twitter page hasn't changed because she doesn't need it to be changed any longer.   She has gotten what she wants and she has J right where she wants him.  As our insider says, "he's whipped."  The prenup was not a big deal because she is planning on using her new position to get as much for herself as she possibly can.  (IMO).  She's a schemer and she's quite capable of this kind of machiavellian plot.  A prenup is only for after the marriage ends.  If she bleeds his accounts and savings dry while they're married and puts money in her name, the prenup is not necessary because she would already have taken his money.  If she's answering his texts for him what else is she doing?  Is she handling his money?  Has she gotten her name on his accounts yet? 

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:26:26
My marriage certificate lists the actual date of my wedding, but on Shockey's, it gives 5/22 as the wedding date, and "deputy clerk" as the person who married them. Did they have a quickie civil cermony yesterday to make it legal, or is this just a clerical error ?
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:19:25
A.G. sent the tweet on 4/22, (Sunday) after a night of epic drinking.
Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:13:13
When did he send that tweet??? No I have no news, it would be news to me. I don't think it would be news that would have been shared with me... I just wish I would have paid more attention to her alcohol consumption at the wedding that's all. It would make sense on why her parents would allow such a quick wedding... He's impulsive, but I don't think I would have let my daughter do something like this. Different strokes for different folks.


Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:13:09
Reply-to:Let me make sure I'm understanding this; you sent a text to HIS phone, and SHE responded to it?-I am aware of the breakups due to cheating. However, I am also aware that she has always taken him back, so to say she wouldnt put up with it isnt necessary true. She has put up with it. She is only using it as leverage. -I do have an affection for J and dont care much for his wife.-It is very possible that she is sending out the tweets last night, she has responded to my text.

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T09:05:37

The forum dialogue for a while was focused on her being pregnant to explain the speed of the engagement and wedding, i.e. get it done before she starts to show. However, with the amount of drinking she was doing - A. Gonzalez sent her a tweet complimenting her on her tequila consumption - that idea was dismissed.

 

So... why are you bringing up it - have some news?

 

 

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:59:47
Yes it was "almost the wedding that didn't happen" there were a few issues that came up. I don't know if it's her controlling him, or him being (excuse the language) ----- whipped.

There was a call about an ex, the issue at LIV, and of course the pre nup that seemed to be more of an issue with other people then them.

So one of you mentioned you think she is pregnant? Why is that a thought?
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:51:55

Reply-to:-Oh, good, you're back. If thet's the case it, it means she REALLY controlling him - I think your friend is in for alot of heartache. So on the 5 Star Island blog, the manager said this wedding "almost didn't happen" -his words, not mine. Is because one or both of them almost called it off?  

                           I am aware of the breakups due to cheating. However, I am also aware that she has always taken him back, so to say she wouldnt put up with it isnt necessary true. She has put up with it. She is only using it as leverage. -I do have an affection for J and dont care much for his wife.-It is very possible that she is sending out the tweets last night, she has responded to my text.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:46:10
-I am aware of the breakups due to cheating. However, I am also aware that she has always taken him back, so to say she wouldn't put up with it isn't necessary true. She has put up with it. She is only using it as leverage.
-I do have an affection for J and don't care much for his wife.
-It is very possible that she is sending out the tweets last night, she has responded to my text.
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:42:21
Actually what's curious about all this is that none of this drivel is coming from D. A year ago, she was the one that couldn't control the Twitter affection; if you look at her Twitter today, you would think she's still single - no loving messages, and the magenta lipstick avatar is still up. I mean if you're watching movies and sending tweets (him anyway) 3 days after your wedding, don't you have time to upload a "married" avatar?
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:37:05

I agree.  If she was doing it, the tweets would be more effusive and everything would be punctuated with an exclamation point!!! 

Reply-to:  :No, I'm quite convinced all of this drivel is coming straight from Shockey's brain. He tends to be a slave to  his emotons and goes overboard on everything. You all have never considered its her posting on his account huh?

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:33:59
Sorry, emotions.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-23T08:33:07
Reply-to:No, I'm quite convinced all of this drivel is coming straight from Shockey's brain. He tends to be a slave to  his emotons and goes overboard on everything. You all have never considered its her posting on his account huh?

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-23T07:46:50

You're right.  It boggles my mind when I think of her age, (20) at the time they met and how much sexual experience she had by that age.  She has to be pretty good in the sex department to keep his attention for this long.   She must have started in her early to mid teens.  I guess I was raised by a different type of mother but the fact that her parents encouraged her sexual relationship with him.  Maybe she wanted that lifestyle he's offering her so badly she was willing to do anything to get it.   Definitely not like I was raised.

Reply-to:Couples that have the real thing dont need to tell anybody, they just exude it. This marriage is based on superficial, selfish desires. We suspected it all along, and our wedding photographer has confirmed it, although he/she obviously has an affection for Shockey, and isnt comfortable being as blunt as we are.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-23T01:54:54
You all have never considered its her posting on his account huh?
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-22T21:45:38

Couples that have the real thing don't need to tell anybody, they just exude it. This marriage is based on superficial, selfish desires. We suspected it all along, and our wedding photographer has confirmed it, although he/she obviously has an affection for Shockey, and isn't comfortable being as blunt as we are.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T21:42:42

I agree with you about his football comments.  He loves the game way too much to consider it secondary.  He's putting as brave a face on the fact that he's finished as he can.   If a team called him, he'd be on the next plane there.  It's such a shame to see someone who was once so proud of his career and accomplishments brought down to being a groveling wuss.  

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Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T21:35:17
Tonight's tweets seem so phony and forced.  People who really love each other don't talk like that.  They don't need to.  Who is he trying to convince, us or himself?  He's trying way too hard and, especially for a newlywed, he shouldn't have to.  IMO anyway.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-22T21:08:27
Reply-to:Yes well, he needs to rationalize not being pursued by any teams.. now its, "oh who cares about football", but 3 months ago it was ALL he cared about, and he wanted to "play for 4 or 5 more years." What's REALLY wierd is how one sided this relationship has become. He can't stop groveling, and she's just "meh."The hacking on D.'s Twitter was an ad for a diet pill. Ahhh...blinding love.  LOL.  Looks like S has been busy for the past 30 minutes tweeting about the best thing that has ever happened to him, football is secondary compared to D and hes found religion.   Also, it seems like Ds account has been hacked according to someone who tweeted him.

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T20:59:26
Ahhh...blinding love.  LOL.  Looks like S has been busy for the past 30 minutes tweeting about "the best thing" that has ever happened to him, "football is secondary" compared to D and he's found religion.  

Also, it seems like D's account has been hacked according to someone who tweeted him.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-22T20:14:48
A little post wedding humor... did anyone notice that her bouquet, his boutonneire, and the floral arrangements were all... wait for it... MAGENTA! HaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-22T20:07:53
Reply-to: You certainly know him better than we do, but, as you mentioned in a previous post, you aren't close to D. YOU may not know this, but they have broken up several times in the past year, and she's made it clear that, at least twice, it was due to him cheating or at least her believing he was cheating. IDK that she would put up with it now that they're married. She strikes me as a real b@llbuster.  Several answers: I believe that when someone marries someone like Jeremy you turn a blind eye if they are unfaithful. You in that position convince yourself sex doesnt have anything to do with love. Now it could also be that she is very sexual and maybe he believes she is all he needs. Or maybe with out the career the opportunity isnt available. Like someone said we will see who knows she might cheat first. Weight loss could be due to stress or partying not drinking. Idk.No she is not a counselor and no money was exchanged its a respect thing with her

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T18:54:21

Thank you for your opinion and insights.  I was really just curious, what did they serve for dinner at the wedding and do you know who the caterer was?

Reply-to:Several answers: I believe that when someone marries someone like Jeremy you turn a blind eye if they are unfaithful. You in that position convince yourself sex doesnt have anything to do with love. Now it could also be that she is very sexual and maybe he believes she is all he needs. Or maybe with out the career the opportunity isnt available. Like someone said we will see who knows she might cheat first. Weight loss could be due to stress or partying not drinking. Idk.No she is not a counselor and no money was exchanged its a respect thing with her

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T17:13:39
Several answers: I believe that when someone marries someone like Jeremy you turn a blind eye if they are unfaithful. You in that position convince yourself sex doesn't have anything to do with love. Now it could also be that she is very sexual and maybe he believes she is all he needs. Or maybe with out the career the opportunity isn't available. Like someone said "we will see" who knows she might cheat first. Weight loss could be due to stress or partying not drinking. Idk. No she is not a counselor and no money was exchanged its a respect thing with her
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-22T16:34:19

My guess is the stress she put him through the last couple of weeks.  He's lost a lot of esteem in my eyes.  Not because he married her, but because he kowtows to her. 

Reply-to:The pic w/ Lucy is blurry, cant really see her face.  I dont think he can be faithful for long.  Why did he lose so much weight? 

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-22T16:10:39
The pic w/ Lucy is blurry, can't really see her face.  I don't think he can be faithful for long.  Why did he lose so much weight? 
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-22T16:04:52
Is the pregnant "Ex" the chic who is a school counselor?  She may have been paid to keep quiet about who the father is.
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-22T14:32:41

Yes she was there.   Check the photobucket photo album.  She's in a pic between 2 men.  She's wearing a black and brown dress. 

Reply-to:OK, does anyone know if Lucinda was there?  And his favorite aunt and uncle?

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T13:24:25
OK, does anyone know if Lucinda was there?  And his favorite aunt and uncle?

Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-22T12:01:58

If the person who wrote the post below is the actual insider who posted the pics then it sounds like you expect him to continue with his "bad boy" and womanizer lifestyle inspite of the fact that he's married.  Do you see him as remaining faithful to D?   Do you think he was serious when he took his vows to remain true or was he just reciting them and not really hearing what the words said? 

We'll wait and see. 

Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-22T10:02:52
When it comes to "real relationships" I think he is always been immature. The "girl" or "ex" that is pregnant was more like a best friend who loved him unconditional and he her. But everyone knows who and what J is about. He is the "ultimate bad boy" and "womanizer" I think he will always feel the need to fill that role in order to feel masculine. Again immaturity shows with that. Yes there is a pre nup. But I don't think her motives were money related I think its a lifestyle that he can and will provide for his wife that gives her the financial security. She's in her twenties,  I think its more about the now not the later.
Anonymous (Veteran) wrote on 2012-05-22T08:26:40

I still have to shake my head.  After reading the responses from our "insider" I am amazed first that a 20 year old, (she was 20 when they met and this whole thing started) is so experienced that she's able to manipulate a man who is 31 and very experienced with women.  ( I do know that experience with women doesn't translate into experience with relationships.)  They have nothing in common save for that physical attraction.   And second that J was so starved for companionship that he fell for a little girl's game and has let her dictate their relationship. 

When this whole thing blows up in their faces, the fireworks are going to be something to see, look out!

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-21T21:10:40

I read your other response below and thank you for your honesty.  Was he the assertive one in his other relationships?  Also, do you know if there was or wasn't a prenup signed?

Reply-to:I really dont know, he really is into her. I could see there being a correlatetion between the 2

Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-21T20:43:21
Never mind, both pics are back up.  My computer must have been having trouble loading earlier.
Anonymous (Rookie) wrote on 2012-05-21T20:08:54
D has deleted the last two pics she posted, the one about fake friends and the other about not buying your bullsh*t.  She's probably softened some towards him since she has him right where she wants him.
Anonymous (Sophomore) wrote on 2012-05-21T18:52:41
I really don't know, he really is into her. I could see there being a correlatetion between the 2
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